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Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:50 pm
by MacPhantom
Pumpkin_Man wrote: Thw whole thing was a fraud, designed to mak LeVay rich.
Heh heh heh... Imagine that... abusing peoples' faith or desire for a religious framework to guide their lives just to make a quick buck. I have never heard of such a thing!

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm
by Rising Dead Man
I just assumed he was some guy influenced by the devil.
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:41 pm
by Pumpkin_Man
The devil tempts us to sin, so he was probably both a fraud AND influenced by the devil. I very much do believe that the "church" he started is VERY MUCH influenced and even possessed by the devil.
Mike
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:09 pm
by Rising Dead Man
ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh.......mwahahahaha

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:47 pm
by MacPhantom
Sin is just a scam designed to take all the fun out of life, and Satan is a fictional character created so movies like
The Exorcist and
The Omen wouldn't seem cheesy. I'm having none of it!!

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:39 pm
by iHaunt
Oh, by the way... did anyone remember back in 1993 about the cult leader David Koresh's Waco Massacre in Texas? I've never forgotten about that one.

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:34 am
by Murfreesboro
Oh, yes, of course. I'm not sure our government handled that correctly. I have heard since that that fellow Koresh was out and about in the community at times. He could have been picked up without the massacre.
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:17 am
by Pumpkin_Man
MacPhantom, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but I don't want to turn this into a debate on religion.
Yes, I do remember what happened in Waco Texas, and while that might have been based on the Christian Bible, I certainly believe that satan had a hand in that horror, as I believe he had a hand in the Jonestown Massechre, and the Branch Dividians, and all other cults that glorify suicide.
Mike
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:20 am
by Murfreesboro
Were the Branch Davidians the ones who killed themselves because of the Hale-Bopp comet? Or was that Koresh's group?
I'd have to agree that if these suicidal groups are not directly inspired by Satan, he must certainly rejoice over them, nevertheless.
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:05 pm
by MacPhantom
Fair enough, Mike.
The Davidians were the ones out of Waco, Murf. It was Heaven's Gate that were chasing the comet. What did they all have in common? A lack of critical examination of what they believed, and the desire to trust in unsubstantiated promises of a better afterlife from charismatic Leaders. People who are lost are easily taken advantage of, and the results are almost always tragic.

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:28 pm
by Pumpkin_Man
Religion is not the only "cult" that lost people can be conned into joining. Hitler's Nazi party was every bit as much a "cult" as was Jonestown, and the results were horrendous. Many Neo Nazies today look at Hitler as a "saviour," or even a "godhead." It's down right scary at times when you see the "shrines" set up to Hitler.
Mike
Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:14 pm
by iHaunt
I heard the Charles Mason was returning back from the dead, and he's still hosting the party again!

Just kidding.

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:46 pm
by MacPhantom
The Nazi party was a political movement that gained power in a country and forced it's citizens to join at gunpoint. I think you're right to say that Neo-nazis are drawn in the same way many cult members are, but I don't think it was quite the same situation in WWII Germany.
And iHaunt, I think Manson has to die first before he can return from the dead. Unless I've been misinformed....I may need more info....

Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:49 pm
by Andybev01
MacPhantom wrote:Fair enough, Mike.
The Davidians were the ones out of Waco, Murf. It was Heaven's Gate that were chasing the comet. What did they all have in common? A lack of critical examination of what they believed, and the desire to trust in unsubstantiated promises of a better afterlife from charismatic Leaders. People who are lost are easily taken advantage of, and the results are almost always tragic.

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Re: Satanic cult leader
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:56 pm
by MacPhantom
The only ones who ever thought that was real were the ones who already voted for her.
